Joe Budden Podcast Co-Host Calls Nas' "Illmatic" A "Hard Listen"

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During a recent episode of his podcast, Joe Budden and the rest of his crew revealed their thoughts on Nas.

Ice is no stranger to sharing his hot takes on The Joe Budden Podcast, and this week was certainly no exception. At one point in the episode, he and the other hosts were discussing Nas' 1994 debut studio album, Illmatic. While the project is widely recognized as one of greatest hip-hop albums of all time, Ice disagrees, even calling it a "hard listen."

"I'm not a fan of that album too much," he explained, leaving his co-hosts stunned. "It Was Written was a much better album to me. [...] I'm used to being clowned for my takes, I'm just saying [...] it's a hard listen for me."

"I don't relate to anything," he then added, as captured by joebuddenclips/fanpage on X. "I've come to accept I am a more commercial fan. [...] Just the sound. It was very gritty, hard. It wasn't clean. [...] I'm not saying it's a bad album."

This is far from the only controversial take that's been shared on the podcast in recent weeks, however. Earlier this month, for example, Budden argued that Ludacris, Kendrick Lamar, and other hip-hop artists often mess up solid R&B songs.

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"Ludacris has f*cked up the vibe on more R&B songs that he's helped to make lit," he began. "You like Ludacris' verse on that R. Kelly song?"

"My thing about Ludacris is, he got verses on a lot of sensual, sexy type of songs, and this one for example. When he comes on, it's like, 'Okay, this wasn't the time for that.' I feel the same way about him on the T Pain record," he continued before admitting that he doesn't think all of the collaborations are bad. "He absolutely killed the Missy record, but then Jay-Z came. The Usher record he killed."

This latest debate comes amid questions about Melyssa Ford's departure from the podcast. It also comes even amid theories that the show is now censoring her name thanks to rumored tension between her and her former co-hosts.

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Caroline Fisher is a News Writer at HotNewHipHop from Chicago, Illinois. She started at HNHH this year, and has since spent her time writing about all that is newsworthy in the world of hip-hop. With a drive for hunting down the hottest stories, she enjoys documenting new developments in culture and entertainment. She also has an appreciation for hip-hop and seeks to cover the most important trends and shifts. She has a Bachelor of Arts which she received at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Having graduated in 2022, she majored in English with a concentration in Media, Rhetoric and Cultural Studies. Specializing all things music, pop culture and entertainment, some of her favorite musical artists include Snoop Dogg, OutKast, and Nicki Minaj. When she’s not writing about music she’s also a fan of attending shows, watching the latest movies, staying up-to-date with current events, photography, and poetry.

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