Michael Jackson’s 83-year old mother, Katherine Jackson, recently sat down for an interview with 60 Minutes Australia for an intimate conversation about her late son. The grandmother spoke on the difficulties underlying raising her grand-children Paris, Prince and Blanket Jackson and considered it a bit harder than her first-go round raising her nine children with Joe Jackson. As Katherine Jackson explained her devastation following her son’s passing, she marked Michael’s death as having “caused problems in a lot of ways.”

Further probing by the interviewer led the mother to reveal her stance on the re-sparked sexual abuse allegations surrounding her deceased son. In reference to the court cases and allegations Jackson faced while alive, Katherine stated: “It was hard on me because I knew all the time that Michael didn’t do it. I had no doubt. I know he didn’t do it…both families lied.” Furthermore, the crooner’s mother revealed she believed one specific accuser, Wade Robson, was lying about what happened and so to get a share of Jackson’s estate.

“Wade Robson is lying through his teeth and he knows it. And anybody can say it that knows it, knows Michael. Wade knows better. Wade just wants money,” were Katherine Jackson’s exact words. The denial closely follows the investigation of both Michael Jackson’s children and his estate surrounding the Leaving Neverland documentary. Several loopholes have been called out and we are certain to obtain more information on this soon.